Peter WENGER held citizenship at Forst, Amsoldingen Parish, Canton Bern,
Switzerland. He was married at Amsoldingen on 19 Feb. 1717 as a resident
of Forst to Barbara ERHARD of Blumenstein.1
At the baptism of his son Peter he was listed as a "Schulmeister" [teacher].
At the death of his wife Barbara, she was called the wife of the "Spendvogt"
[almoner].
Peter WENGER and Barbara ERHARD had children born at Forst, and baptized
at Amsoldingen:
1. Barbara WENGER bap. 6 Feb. 1718;1 m.1 Christen MEGERT 14 Nov. 1738;4
m.2 Hans Hofmann 30 Jan. 1744;5 d. 9 Oct. 1776 Oberbütschel, Rüeggisberg
Parish, Canton Bern, bur. 12 Oct.;6
2. Christen WENGER bap. 1 Nov. 1722;1 m. 6 June 1752 Barbara BRÖNNIMANN;2
d. 10 April 1786 Forst, bur. 13 April 1786;3
3. Peter WENGER bap. 8 July 1725;1 m. 6 June 1752 Elisabeth KISLIG;2
Julius Billeter in Genealogy of the Fischer Family of Höfen, & Amsoldingen;
Wenger Family of Höfen, Forst, Langenbühl & Dittlingen, Kt. Bern, Switzerland,
abt. 1540-18957 listed that the Christian WENGER who married Barbara
BRÖNNIMANN as the Christian baptized 22 Feb. 1729, son of Peter WENGER and
wife Anna RIEM, although his notes on the WENGER family of Forst listed no
father for him.8
Several records show that to be in error. First, is that Christen's son
Christen married Barbara HÄNNI on 31 Mar. 1786, which was followed by
the marriage of his son Johannes on 19 May 1786. A bracket was drawn to
include both marriages, and listed them as [sons] of the deceased
Kirchm[eyer].3 As the bracket included both names, it would have been made
after the marriage of Johannes, which was also after the death of Christian
WENGER the "alt Kirchmeÿer," [their father] who died between their marriages on
13 April 1786.3 His age at death of 64 corresponds with the 1722 birth, not the
1729 one.
The second evidence is that Christen and [his brother] Peter married on the
same day, respectively to Barbara BRÖNNIMANN and Elisabeth KISLIG.2 Additional
evidence is found in the sponsors they had for their children. Christen
WENGER and wife Barbara BRÖNNIMANN had as one of the sponsors, Barbara
HOFMANN, born WENGER, of "Riggisberg" [sic Rüeggisberg].2 For their second
child, one of the sponsors was Peter WENGER.2 For their fifth child, one of
the sponsors was the "Spendvogt" [almoner] Peter WENGER's wife [not named].
From her death record, Barbara ERHARD, [the mother of the Christen WENGER
who married Barbara BRÖNNIMANN], was the wife of the Spendvogt Peter WENGER.3
Peter WENGER and wife Elisabeth KISLIG had among the three sponsors for their
first child, Hans Hofmann of Rüeggisberg [second husband of his sister Barbara],
and Barbara BRÖNNIMANN, the wife of his [br]uder [brother] Christen WENGER.2
Barbara WENGER and her second husband Hans Hofmann had as sponsors for chidren
baptized in 1756 and 1757 at Rüeggisberg, Peter WENGER and Elsbeth KISLIG
[Peter's wife]. For the first their residence was not given, but for the second
both were listed as from Amsoldingen.11 While Peter WENGER and wife Anna RIEM
also had children named Barbara and Peter, their daughter Barbara was born in
1725. Born in 1725, she would be too young to be the Barbara who first married
Christen MEGERT at Wattenwil in 1738 and secondly Hans HOFMANN at Rüeggsiberg.
The combination of all the records, shows the parents of Christen WENGER who
married Barbara BRÖNNIMANN were the Spendvogt Peter WENGER and wife Barbara
ERHARD, not Peter WENGER and wife Anna RIEM.
Christen WENGER and Barbara BRÖNNIMANN had children 6 children
born at Forst. All except Barbara were baptized at Amsoldingen,
she being baptized at Wattenwil:
1. Christen WENGER bap. 10 June 1753;2 m. Christina HÄNNI 31 Mar. 1786;3
d. 10 Sep. 1804 Forst, bur. 12 Sep. 1804;3
2. Elisabetha WENGER bap. 13 Oct. 1754;2 m. Peter Messerli 4 May 1782;3
3. Johannes WENGER bap. 1 Aug. 1756;2 m. Anna MEGERT 19 May 1786;3
4. Barbara WENGER bap. 8 Oct. 1758;9
5. Margaretha WENGER bap. 10 Feb. 1760;2 m. Bendicht MESSERLI3,10 17 June 1780;3
d. 22 Feb. 1827 Längenbühl, Amsoldingen Parish, bur. 26 Feb. 1827;10
6. Anna WENGER bap. 15 Nov. 1761;2 m. Gerhard Boss 13 Dec. 1783;3
d. 20 April 1791, bur. 23 April, Seftigen, Gurzelen Parish, Canton Bern18
Christen WENGER and Christina HÄNNI had 8 children born at Forst.
All of the children of Christen and Christina were baptized at
Amoldingen, except Elisabeth who was baptized at Wattenwil.
1. Christen WENGER bap. 24 Dec. 1786;12 d. 17 Feb. 1787 Forst,
bur. 19 Feb. 1787;3
2. Christian WENGER bap. 9 Dec. 1787;12
3. Anna WENGER bap. 6 Dec. 1789;12 d. 21 Mar. 1794 Forst,
bur. 24 Mar. 1794;3
4. Johannes WENGER bap. 29 Jan. 1792;12
5. David WENGER bap. 1 June 1794;12 d. 1 Nov. 1795 Forst
bur. 3 Nov. 1795;3
6. David WENGER bap. 6 Mar. 1796;12 d. 6 Mar. 1796 Forst [same day as
baptized], bur. 8 Mar. 1796;3
7. Anna WENGER bap. 19 Mar. 1797;12 banns 16 Feb., 23 Feb., 2 Mar. 1817
Chirstian GREBER;13 d. 17 May 1837 Kienthal, Reichenbach Parish,
Canton Bern, Switzerland14
8. Elisabeth WENGER b. 22 Dec. 1798;12 bap. 30 Dec. 1798;12 m. Johannnes
[John] ZIMMERMANN [ZIMMERMAN] 14 Mar. 1823;13,15 d. 216 or 317 Apr. 1878;
Tuscarawas Co., Ohio; bur. Ragesersville Cem., Auburn Twp.,
Tuscarawas Co., Ohio17
1. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Amsoldingen, Canton Bern, Switzerland, CD.
(Rockport, ME: Pricton Press, 2005)
Book 1, Marriage section:
p. 47 Wenger-Erhard
Book 1, baptismal section:
p. 326 Barbara, 1718. Sponsors: Anthoni Heger of Blumenstein,
Madlena Wenger, Elsbeth Fischer
p. 353 Christen, 1722. Sponsors: Hans Meÿer, David Wenger, Cathrina
Küenzi
p. 387 Peter, 1725. Sponsors: David Feller [relative of the mother's
mother], Hans Zimmermann, Madlena Wenger
2. Amsoldingen, Book 2.
Baptismal section:
p. 57 Christen, 1752. Sponsors: Christen Stubi of Zimmerwald [husband
of the wife's sister]; Daniel Brönnimann of Zimmerwald [brother
of the mother]; Barbara Hofmann, born Wenger, of "Riggisberg"
[sic, Rüegisberg] [sister of the father]
p. 71 Elisabeth, 1754. Sponsors: Peter Wenger of Forst [brother or
father of the father]; Elisabeth Schweitzer of Thurnen; Elisabeth
Hanni, born Balmer
p. 77 Elisabeth, daughter of Peter Wenger and Elisabeth Kislig bap.
27 Apr. 1755. Sponsors: Hans Hofmann of Rüeggisberg [husband of
the father's sister]; Barbara Brönnimann the [Br]uder [brother]
Christen Wenger's wife at Forst; Elisabeth Schonthal,
born Meÿer of Amsoldingen
p. 86 Johannes, 1756. Sponsors: Christen Krebs, the Ammann [official]
of "Kilchdorf" [Kirchdorf]; Gerhard Boss of Seftigen; Magadelen
Moser, Hans Wenger's wife at [blot]
p. 105 Margaritha, 1760. Sponsors: the wife [unnamed] of Peter Wenger the
Spendvogt [alomner] of Forst [Barbara Erhard, mother of the father];
Margareth Bähler, Peter Wiler's wife from Längenbühl; Anna Hadorn
of Forst
p. 119 Anna, 1761. Sponsors: Peter Feller of Noflen, [relative of the
father's maternal grandmother??]; Anna Wenger of Forst; Christina
Guggisperg, Hans Bruner's widow of Thieracheren [Thierachern]
Marriage section:
p. 248 1752 Wenger of Forst-Brönnimann of Zimmerwald
p. 248 1752 Wenger of Forst-Kislig of Noflen, parish Kirchdorf
3. Amsoldingen, Book 9
Marriage section:
p. 31 Messerli, Bendicht of Längenbühl-Wenger, Margaretha of Forst
p. 34 Messerli, Peter, widower of Hatigen-Wenger, Elisabeth of Forst
p. 36 Boss of Seftigen-Wenger of Forst
p. 38 Wenger-Hanni, both of Forst
p. 38 Wenger of Forst-Megert of Wattenwil
Death section:
p. 20 25 Jan. 1758, Barbara Erhard the Spend vogt Peter Wenger's wife
of Forst,age 70
p. 45 Christen, 1786, "alt Kirchmeÿer" [old administrator of church
property] of Forst, age 64.
p. 46 Christen, 1787, son of Christen, age 9 weeks
p. 55 Anna, 1794, child of the Chor:[richter] [justice of the family
and marriage court] at Forst age 5
p. 58 David, 1795, 1 year old child of the Chorichter
p. 59 David, 1796, baptized at birth, the Chorrichter [justice of the
family and marriage court] at Forst's child
p. 69 Christen, 1804,altchorr[ichter], age 52.
4. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Wattenwil, Canton Bern, Switzerland,
Book 1, (marriage section), FHL microfilm 2,005,820.
p. 305 1738 Megert of Wattenwil-Wenger of Forst
5. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Rüeggisberg, Book 12, FHL microfilm
2,005,699.
p. 200 1744 Hoffmann of Bütshcel-Megert born Wenger of Wattenwil
6. Rüeggisberg Book 18, FHL microfilm 2,005,700.
p. 21 1776 Hofmann of Oberbütshcel born Wenger
7. Julius Billeter, Genealogy of the Fischer Family of Höfen, &
Amsoldingen; Wenger Family of Höfen, Forst, Langenbühl & Dittlingen,
Kt. Bern, Switzerland, abt. 1540-1895 (Billeter, 1898), FHL
microfilm 1,183,642, item 6.
8. Julius Billeter, "Genealogical Notes on the Wenger Family,"
FHL microfilm 0,193,487.
9. Wattenwil 1752-1802 baptismal register, FHL microfilm 2,005,820.
p. 32 Barbara, 1758. Sponsors: Christen Brönnimann of Zimmerwald
[brother of the mother]; Barbara Guggisberg of Zimmerwald;
Elisabeth Streit of Forst
10. Amsoldingen Book 12.
Death section:
p. 38 1827 Margaritha Messerli of Längenbühl, born Wenger, surviving
widow of Bendicht, age 67.
11. Rüeggisberg, Book 5, pp. 2, 17, FHL microfilm 2,005,696.
12. Amsoldingen, Book 3.
Baptismal section:
p. 31 Christen, 1786. Sponsors: Hans Wenger of Forst [brother of the
father]; Bendicht Messerli of Längenbühl [husband of the father's
sister]; Magdalena Bäler of Längenbühl [maternal cousin of the
mother, born in 1769]
p. 39 Christen, 1787. Sponsors: Christen Hänni [brother of the mother];
Bendicht Messerli [husband of the father's sister]; Magdal:
Bähler [maternal cousin of the mother]
p. 52 Anna, 1789. Sponsors: Hans Hänni [brother of the mother]; Anna
Wenger [sister or sister-in-law of the father]; Elisabeth Messerli
of Hattigen [Gemeinde Längenbühl, sister of the father]
p. 65 Johannes, 1792. Sponsors: Hans Wenger [brother of the father];
David Hänni [brother of the mother]; Anna Wenger [probably Anna
Megert, wife of the father's brother Peter]
p. 80 David, 1794. Sponsors: Peter Messerli [husband of the father's
sister]; Hans Hänni [brother of the mother]; Anna Wenger [probably
Anna Megert, wife of the father's brother Peter]
p. 88 David, 1796. Sponsors: Hans Hänni [brother of the mother]; Christen
Bähler of Längenbühl [maternal cousin of the mother, born in 1762];
Anna Wenger, born Megert [wife of the father's brother]
p. 93 Anna, 1797. Sponsors: Hans Hänni [brother of the mother]; Anna Megert
[wife of the father's brother]; Elisabeth Bähler [maternal cousin of
the mother, born in 1757]
Auswärtige section:
p. 46 Elisabeth, 1798. Sponsors: Hans Hänni, the mother's brother; Anna
Wenger of Forst, born Megert [wife of the father's brother]; Anna
Bähler of Längenbühl, the deceased Christen's daughter [maternal
cousin of the mother, born in 1759]
13. Amsoldingen, Book 10
p. 32 Greber of Kienthal, church Reichenbach, Johannes son with
Wenger of Forst, the deceased Chorrichter Christen's daughter
p. 61 Zimmermann of Wattenwil, Christen's son and Wenger of Forst,
the deceased altchorrichter Christen's daughter
Announcement Feb. 23, Mar. 2, 9; married 14 Mar. Wattenwil
14. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Reichenbach, Book 18, FHL microfilm
2,005,662.
p. 42 entry #43, Anna Wenger, Christen Greber's of Kienthal wife
age 40y 2m
15. Wattenwil 1752-1828 marriage register, FHL microfilm 2,005,822.
p. 75 Johannes Zimmermann, Christen's son from here in Schwarzmoos and
Elisabeth Wenger the deceased Chorrichter Christen's daughter at Forst
16. Maxine Renner Everle, Kirchenbuch der Ersten Hochdeutsch-Reformierten
Gemeinde zu Ragersville, Tuscarawas Co., Ohio = Church Book of The First
German-Reformed Congregation in Ragersville, Tuscarawas County, Ohio,
(Sugarcreek, Ohio: Ragersville Historical Society, 1986), 61.
born 25 Dec. 1798; died 2 April 1878, age 79-3-2
17. Cemetery inscription, Ragersville Cemetery, Tuscarawas Co., OH. Photo
taken in 1982.
Elisabeth Zimmerman, died 3 April 1878, age 79y, 3m, 8d
18. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Gurzelen Book 14, FHL microfilm 2,005,458.
p. 96 Anna Wenger, wife of Gerhard Boss of Seftigen, age 27y 6m
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