The information on this MOHLER line was made possible through y-DNA
research.  Matches between various branches proved their being related
to each other. Knowing that DNA proved they were related led to the
records that showed how these families were related.

For those on Facebook that are interested in the families, there is a page at:
Mohler-Moler-Moulder DNA Project

Valentine (born say 1740) and John MOLER [MOULDER] (born ca 1733) of NC
by tradition were brothers. Also by "tradition" they were the sons of a
Henry. Of interest was that a Henry MOLER of Frederick Co., MD had a will
proved in 1797 in which he had named sons Jacob, John and Valentine.
Nothing had been found to either prove or disprove whether the NC men
were the sons of this Henry. Some researchers believed that the son
Valentine was the Valentine MOLER that appeared in 1790 York Co., PA.

The Valentine in 1790 York County was listed next to Clement STUDIBAKER.27
On 4 April 1772 Henry MOHLER of Berwick Township, York Co. and his wife
Catherine had sold 90 acres to Valentine PRIZZLE [his son-in-law] that was
adjacent to Clement STUDEBERGER.28 Valentine MOLER had 1 white male over
age 16 and 1 female. No estate record has been found for Jacob, son of Henry,
and all of his children are not known. It is believed that the Valentine
in 1790 York Co. had just married, was a son of Jacob, and remained in 
York Co. when his father Jacob and grandfather Henry moved to Frederick
Co., MD between 1785 and 1790.

Other researchers have claimed that Henry's son Valentine died testate in
1807 Frederick Co., MD with a will written as Valentine "MOLLER."  The
actual will is for Valentine MOTTER.29 The accounts of his estate also
confirm that the name was MOTTER.30 He had appeared in the 1790 Frederick Co.
census as Valentine MOTTOR31 and in 1800 as Valentine MORTAR.32

In June and July 2008 a descendant of Henry MOLER (1780-1855), believed
son of Valentine MOLER [MOULDER] who died about 1804 in Iredell Co., NC
and a descendant of John MOLER/MOHLAR [MOULDER] of NC, DNA tested with
Family Tree DNA and matched at 36 of 37 markers, proving that they were
related. 

It was found that they matched with MOHLERs that had previously tested
with DNA Heritage.  They had tested 43 markers, of which 32 were shared
by the FTNDA 37 marker test.
Those matches were with descendants of:
Ludwig MOHLER 1696-1754 of Lancaster Co., PA
Henry MOHLER say 1700-1769 of Lancaster Co., PA
Henry MOLER 1711-1797 of Frederick Co., MD through his son Jacob

Those results from both companies are listed on the Mohler DNA Comparisons page.

The Henry who died in 1769 left a will,33 so it was known that the NC
John and Valentine were not children of him. He named no son Valentine,
and his son John was underage when it was written. 

Ludwig MOHLER has only one proved son at the present time, that being
Ludwig, Jr. With the DNA match, it is believed that John and Valentine
MOLER of NC are the sons of Henry MOLER who died in Frederick Co., MD.

The Henry of MD was the one who named sons John and Valentine in his
will for which no paper trail had been found as to the identity of
those sons. It was known that this Henry Mohler and wife Catharina
were from Hassloch, [now] Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany, where their son
Johan Jacob was baptised in 1736. In his 1734 marriage there, Henry was
listed as the son of the deceased Mathes MOHLER of Basel. Henry himself
was baptized at Hassloch in 1711 as the son of Mathes MOHLER and wife 
Cretha" [Margretha]. In baptisms there for children of Mathes MOHLER, he
was listed as from Switzerland. Mathes MOHLER died at Hassloch in 1712
and was listed as age 65.

In addition to the DNA matches above, a MOHLER who lives in Switzerland
who had previously tested with FTDNA, descended from Veith MOHLER of
Diegten, Baselland, Switzerland. The ancestry of Mathes MOHLER who died
in 1712 has also been found to be a descendant of Veith MOHLER.

The Diegten Church Books contained records of a Matthiss MOHLER who
married in 1692 to Margretha STRUB. No records of this couple were
found at Diegten after 1696. Baptismal records for their children
identified Matthiss as the son of Marti[n] MOHLER. It was found that
Matthiss had a first marriage in 1673 to Anna Buser. In baptismal
records of their children, he was also listed as Marti's son.

Two men named Matthiss MOHLER, both born to men named Martin MOHLER,
were baptized in Feb. 1647. The first was baptized 2 Feb. 1647, the
son of Martin MOHLER and Anna Hägler. Other baptisms of children of
this Martin identified him as Jacob's son. The second Matthiss was
baptized on 28 Feb. 1647, the son of Martin MOHLER and Elsbeth MEYER.
Other baptisms of children of this Martin identified him as the son
of Baschi [Baschen].

The ancestry of the Swiss tester is the line of:
Veith MOHLER
Hans MOHLER b. ca. 1560 and Magdalena FREY
Jacob MOHLER 1590-1653 and Elsbeth BIDERKER who was from Neuendorf
Johannes MOHLER 1635-1713 and Barbara BUSER

The ancestry of the Martin MOHLER who married Anna Hägler is:
Veith MOHLER
Hans MOHLER b. ca. 1560 and Magdalena FREY
Jacob MOHLER 1590-1653 and Elsbeth BIDERKER who was from Neuendorf
Martin MOHLER 1624 and Anna Hägler

The ancestry of the Martin MOHLER who married  Elsbeth MEYER is:
Veith MOHLER
Hans MOHLER b. ca. 1560 and Magdalena FREY
Baschen MOHLER ba. ca. 1593 and Barbel SCHAUB
Martin MOHLER b. 1619 and Elsbeth MEYER

To summarize the evidence regarding this line:
1. Jacob, John and Valentine, sons of Heinrich/Henry MOHLER/MOLER of
   Hassloch, Germany and Frederick Co., MD had a DNA match.
2. The marriage of Heinrich MOHLER in 1734 at Hassloch stated he was
   the son of the deceased Mathes MOHLER of "Basol."
3. Heinrich MOHLER was born in 1711 at Hassloch to Mathes MOHLER
   "of Switzerland," and wife Margretha.
4. Mathes MOHLER died in 1712 at Hassloch at "age 65."
5. Heinrich/Henry's sons John and Valentine had a DNA match 
   with a MOHLER descended from the MOHLER family of Diegten,
   Baselland, Switzerland.
6. Matthiss MOHLER, son of Martin MOHLER was born at Diegten in 1647.
7. Matthiss MOHLER, [born 1647] secondly married at Diegten in 1692
   to Margreth STRUB.
8. The latest record of Matthiss and Margreth found at Diegten was in
   1696.
9  The first year of extant Hassloch records was 1700, and Mathes and
   Margretha had a daughter born there that year.

Mathiss MOHLER, son of Martin MOHLER bap. Feb. 1647 Diegten
Mathes MOHLER buried 19 Aug. 1712, Hassloch, age 65.23

Matthiss MOHLER and Anna BUSER married 15 Aug. 1673;25
Matthiss MOHLER and Anna Buser had children born at Diegten:
1. Marti MOHLER bap. 15 Aug. 1675;25
2. Hans MOHLER bap. 29 June 1677;25
3. Maria MOHLER bap. 31 Oct.1680;25
4. Matthiss MOHLER bap. 16 Dec. 1683;25
5. Anna MOHLER bap. 8 Jan 1688;25
6. Marti MOHLER bap. 22 Mar 1691;25

Anna BUSER died 27 Mar. 1692;25

Matthiss MOHLER of Diegten and Margreth STRUB of Läufelfingen (which is just a
mile or two east of Diegten)
married
   23 Aug. 1692;25

Matthiss Mohler and Margreth Strub had children:
1. Jacob MOHLER bap. 29 Jan. 1693 Diegten26
2. Heinrich MOHLER bap. 4 Mar. 1694 Diegten25
3. Heinrich MOHLER bap. 25 Nov. 1696 Diegten25
4. Maria Elisabetha MOHLER bap. 5 June 1700 Hassloch;23
   m. 1 Feb. 1729 Friedrich Zapp;23 bur. 19 Nov. 1742 Hassloch23
5. Anna Elisabeth MOHLER bap. 6 Nov. 1701 Hassloch23; living 1718;23
6. Johann Georg MOHLER bap. 12 Aug. 1703 Hassloch;23 m. Maria Margaretha -?-23
7. Johann Ludwig MOHLER bap.22 Nov. 1705 Hassloch23; living 1721;23
8. Anna Margaretha MOHLER born ca. 1710;23
9. Johann Henrich MOHLER born 29 Sep. 1711 Hassloch, Germany;23 m. 5 May 1734
   Maria Catharina Drucktenhengst;23 d. between 11 June 1796 and 1 May 1797
   Frederick Co., MD21

Henrich/Henry Moler and Catharina DRUCKTENHENGST had children:
1. Anna Maria Mohler b. 29 Nov. 1734 Horbach22
2. Johann Jacob Mohler21 b. 26 Apr. 1736 Hassloch;23 living 1800
   Frederick Co., MD35
3. John MOHLER/MOHLAR/MOLER21/MOULDER b. about 1738; d. 27 May 1810
   Grainger (now) Union Co., TN;1 m. Susannah SWINGLE.18  She born Switzerland3
   and d. ca. 18352 (now) Union Co., TN;2
4. Valentine MOLER21/MOULDER b. about 1741; m. Christina;5
   d. before Nov. 1804 Iredell Co., NC4 when administrators were appointed
   for his estate
5. Margaret Mohler21 b. say 1743; m. Valentine PRESSEL21
6. Anna Catharina Mohler b. 5 June 1747 Böbingen24

At the baptism of his child Anna Catharina in 1747, Henry MOHLER was listed as a
sheep herder. That likely accounts for why the three baptisms located were at
different locations. Hassloch is east of Horbach. Note Elmstein which is on the west
side of the Hassloch map and east side of the Horbach map for comparion.
Böbingen is just a few miles south of Hassloch. Baptisms for the other three children may be
found in the future at some church in the area for which the records have not yet been examined.

Henry MOHLER arrived at Philadelphia on 7 October 1749 on the Ship Leslie.34

John MOHLAR/MOLER/MOULDER had children, all possibly born in the area of
Randolph Co., NC that was formed in 1778 from Guilford Co., in the part
that was formed in 1770 from Orange County:
1. Catherine3 "Caty"7 MOULDER b. before 1765;6 m. Richard PENN;3 living 1838 MO7
2. Mary3 MOULDER m. Jack PHILLIPS;3 d. VA?3
3. Henry3,7 MOULDER b. ca. 1765;8 living 18508
4. Susanna2,3,7 MOULDER b. Sep. 1767;9 m. Johann Adam SHEEK;2,3,7 d. 2 May 18399,10
   Davie Co., NC
5. John3 MOULDER b. before 1770;13 m. Sarah14 Feilding HOPPER;20
   d. between 30 Mar.14 and 20 Aug. 180115 Jefferson Co., TN14
6. Elizabeth2,3 MOULDER b. 177011-177512 m. Isaac HENDRIX;2,3 living 1835 IN2
7. Jacob2,3 MOULDER b. 2 Apr. 1775;17 m.bond Elizabeth BORELAND 24 May 1802;16
   d. 3 Mar. 184617, bur. Old Paoli Cem., Orange Co., IN17
8. Valentine2,3 "Felty"7 MOULDER b. 25 Nov. 1776;18 m. Lavina ROBERSON19/ROBERTSON3
   lic date 28 May 1798;19 d. ca. 18342 or 7 Jan. 1833;18 drowned Clinch River,
   Union Co., TN2,18


1. Union County Historical Society, Incorporated, Pathways, 12 (Dec. 1993): Number 4, table of contents page. Photo of headstone "John Mohlar Dec[eased] May 27 1810 in the 77th Year of His Age." 2. Letter Jacob Moulder to "Adam Sheeks or sons," 2 Oct. 1836, Jacob Sheek and Jonathan Smith Papers, Collection #4765, Manuscript Department, Perkins Library, Duke University, Durham, NC. It was stated that "Sister Elizabeth Hendrix....was here to see us last fall," and that "I do not know....whether you have heard of the Death of Mother and brother Valentine. he has been dead near two years, and some over one year since Mothers death." Photocopy in my possession. 3. Letter G. W. Moulder, Sr. to Mr. Jesse Butcher and family, 5 Sep. 1883, location of original unknown. Photocopy in my possession. Copy also on FHL microfilm 1,402,783, that is not as clear on last part. G[eorge] W. Moulder was born in 1799, a son of Valentine, and grandson of John. Jesse Butcher was the husband of George's sister. Note: In the letter he inadvertently reversed the husbands of Elizabeth and Susanna. 4. Iredell Co., NC court of pleas and quarter sessions, 1789-1805 book, unpaginated, 3rd Monday Nov. 1804 term, letters adm. on estate of Valentine Moulder issued, FHL microfilm 0,548,873. 5. Valentine Moulder loose estate papers, NC State Archives. 6. 1810 Grainger Co., TN census. Katherine head of household, over age 45. 7. Letter Jacob Sheek [visiting in TN] to wife Sary Sheek, 9 Sep. 1838, Sheek and Smith Papers, Perkins Library. He stated "Uncle Felty Molders widdow lives here in Grainge[r] County, East Tennece. Uncle Henry Molder live about a hundred and forty miles further in middle Tennese, Aunt Caty Penn lives in the Misorou State...." Photocopy in my possession. 8. 1850 VanBuren Co., TN census. 9. Transcript of Bible in home of John Wiley Sheek, Sheek File, McCubbins Collection, Rowan Public Library, Salisbury, NC, FHL microfilm 0,018,891. 10. Sheek family record in Sheek and Smith Papers, Perkins Library. Photocopy in my possession. Entries prior to 1798 appear to have been written at the same time. Entries after that time appear to have been written at different times. 11. 1830 Scott Co., Indiana census. Isaac Hendrix household with 50-60 year old female. 12. 1820 Scott Co., Ind. census, Isaac Hendrix household with female over age 45. 13. Jo White Linn, Rowan County, North Carolina Tax Lists 1757-1800, Annotated Transcripts, (Salisbury, NC: by author, 1995). Both John Molar and John Molar, Jr. appear in 1791 tax list. 14. John Mohlar will, Jefferson Co., TN wills 1:64-65, FHL microfilm 0,968,311. 15. John Molder estate sale, Jefferson Co., TN 2:280-282, FHL microfilm 0,968,311. 16. Brent H. Holcomb, Marriages of Orange County, North Carolina 1779- 1868 (Baltimore: Gen. Pub. Co., Inc., 1983). 17. Photo of tombstone taken 2002 by Eleanor Rayl. Scan in my possession. 18. George Chester Moulder, Moulder's Record of the Moulder Family of America, (Lebanon, MO: by author, 1933), FHL microfilm 0,000,558. 19. Jefferson Co., TN marriage records p. 26, #257, FHL microfilm 0,968,301. 20. E-mail Dorothy M. Avery [dottiea@mhonline.net] to Fredric Z. Saunders, 6 Oct. 1998, stated "Sarah, wife of John Mohler was Sarah Feilding Hopper. Their daughter Nancy marries John Fraime Henderson and had a son, John Jr. I found a document used I believe for an autobigraphy on him and it names his and her parents." 21. Henry Moler will, Frederick Co., MD Will Book GM3:164-165, FHL microfilm 0,014,020 Henry Moler will transcription. 22. Kapellen-Drusweiler, Rheinland-Pfalz Germany, FHL microfilm 0193,930. Book 1, 1669-1734 Anna Maria, 1734. Of Horbach, born 29 Sep. 1734; bap. 3 Dec. 23. Haßloch, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany, Evangelische Kirche, FHL microfilm 0,488,291. 1700-1734 book baptism section p. 1 Maria Elisabeth, 1700. p. 4 Anna Elisabeth, 1701. Father Mathes listed as from Switzerland. p. 8 Johann Georg, 1703. Father Mathes listed as from Switzerland. Sponsor: Johannes Mohler from Switzerland. p. 13 Johann Ludwig, 1705. p. 29 Johann Henrich, 1711. Burial section p. 125 Mathes Mohler, 1712, age 65. Marriage section p. 190 Zapp-Mohler, 1729. Maria Elisabeth daughter of the deceased Mathes Mohler. Confirmation section [starts 1710, no listings 1726-1727] p. 236 1718, Anna Elsabeth Mohler age 15 1719, Joh. Georg Mohler, age 16 p. 237 1721, Joh. Ludwig Mohler, age 14 p. 239 1725, Anna Margretha Mohler, age 14 1733-1768 book baptism section p. 10 Hans Georg Mohler and Maria Margaretha had a daughter Maria Catharina born 29 Apr. 1734; bap. 2 May, with sponsor Maria Catharina Druckhenhengst from Hoffheim p. 21 Johann Jacob born 26 Apr. 1734; bap. 29 Apr., son of Henrich Moler and Maria Catharina Marriage section, unpaginated 1734, bachelor Henrich Mohler, the deceased Mathyss Mohler's from Basel son with single Catharina the Jacob Drucktenhengst from Hofheim daughter Burial section, unpaginated 19 Oct. 1742 Maria Elisabeth, Friedrch Zapp's wife age 42 year & 5 months 24. Böbingen, Rheinland-Pfalz, FHL microfilm 0,193,787, item 3 Book 3, 1692-1793, unpaginated. Anna Catharina, 1747. Born 5 June; baptized 7 Aug. father Heinrich listed as a "Schoaf Hirt" 25. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Diegten, Basselland, Switzerland, Book 1, FHL microfilm 0,953,118. Baptismal section Marti, 1675. Father Matthiss listed as Marti's son. Sponsors: Jacob Mohler, Matthiss Suter, Anna Häfelfinger. Hans, 1677. Father Matthiss listed as Marti's son. Sponsors: Hans Mohler, Wernhard Buser the vogt's son, Elsbeth Mohler. Maria, 1680. Sponsors: Hefelfinger, Maria Felhofer, Elsbeth Schäner? Matthiss, 1683. Sponsors: Fridli Mohler, Rudi Bürgi, Barbara Mohler. Anna, 1688. Father Matthiss listed as Marti's son. Sponsors: Marti Hefelfinger, Hans' son; Anna Jonet?; Catharina Senn?. Marti, 1691. Father Mattiss listed as Marti's son. Sponsors: Marti Mohler, Vith's son; Heinrich Blatner; Anna Magdalena Bruoch??? Jacob, 1693. Heinrich, 1694. Father Mattis listed as Marti's son. Sponsors: Hans Jocki Hantschi?, Hans Wagner, Eva Schweitzer Heinrich 1696. Father Matthiss listed as Marti's son. Sponsors: Hans Ulrich Müller of the Zÿrich born ???? Müller; Heinrich Lüdi of Ramlisferg [Ramlinsburg], Margreth Scholer and Vogt's daughter of Jentz Marriage section 1673, Mohler-Buser 1692, Mohler-Strub Burial section 1692, Anna Buser Book 1a p. 69 Jacob, 1693. Father Mattiss listed as Marti's son. Sponsors: Galli Hegler, Fridli Eckh, Madle Recher? 26. Diegten Book 1a, FHL microfilm 0,953,118. p. 69 Jaocb, 1693. Father Mattiss listed as Marti's son. Sponsors: Galli Hegler, Fridli Eokh?, Madle Racher? 27. 1790 York Co., PA census, p. 462. 28. York Co., PA Deed Book E:150-152, FHL microfilm 0,022,098. 29. Valentine Motter will, Frederick Co., MD Will Book GM & RB 1:315, FHL microfilm 0,014,020. 30. Frederick Co., MD Administration Accounts HS No. 3, pages 180, 196, and 198. 31. 1790 Frederick Co., MD census, p. 243. 32. 1800 Frederick Co., MD census, p. 113. 33. Lancaster Co., PA Will Book B1:637-639, FHL microfilm 0,021,354. 34. Ralph Beaver Strassburger and William John Hinke, Pennsylvania German Pioneers, (Rockport, ME: Picton Press, 2002), 419. 35. 1800 Frederick Co. MD, p. 185.

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